Anyone watched Fallout?

[Starfox]

Because let me tell you, if they wanted to make a comedy, they partially succeeded. When they put in the credits "based on the series of video games" they possibly forgot to add "loosely".

How many A-Bomb does it take to explode a city of medium size? According to the beginning of the show, a fucking lot! IRL just one would be enough, thank you very much. It doesn't even really need to be that big. About 500 Kt (which is already a bit more than 20 times Hiroshima). Technically, if you don't miss, you can blow Paris with 250 Kt. I had not idea that the technology of Fallout was so outdated that they needed that many bombs to do the job.

Also the fact that the initial shockwave blows all the windows in the house, and the stuff in the garden but do not move a single hair on the heads of the people is hilarious. At the moment this shockwave hit, they should all be dead or at least critically wounded from massive blunt trauma.

So what is done right? Well the vault is certainly done right, Standard vault stuff there, nothing special to say, except... why are two vaults linked together? And I mean "physically" linked together, not just in radio range.  They have a common door and everything. I know Vault-Tec is into crazy experiments but this one... totally new to me.

Vault 33 is also the first vault I see with a door in the open. Generally they're all underground or in a cave but there? Let's be proud and paint ourselves an even bigger target to ease the following strike.

But the vault-suit is nicely done. So that's a prop for the seamstress.

But apparently the big radiation detectors that are supposed to be at the entrance of every vault, you know, the things that allow you to know that some pesky radiations didn't enter by accident, seems to be malfunctioning in vault... 33 is it? It took a third of the episode before the girl (Lucy I think), finally thought it could be a good idea to check the level of radiation of her new "husband" with her trusty pipboy, in time to discover, before the marriage is consumed, that the guy is what we all knew he was for about 15 minutes prior, a raider (really those guys had raider tattooed all over their face. Even without the radiation detector there was no need to be a fucking genius to realize that).

Oh, as a side note, the pipboys are silver here instead of brown-ish? Cute. I thought only mods allowed changing the standard pipboy color scheme. But let's not drown ourselves in mere technicalities

I also made the acquaintance of the new Brotherhood Of Steel. I say new because... wow, not like any BoS I know. So OK that was apparently a camp of recruits in training but seriously... the guy masturbating in full day without a care in the world for all his comrades (girls and boys alike) around him... so classy!

The T60s are weird. I mean, they look just about normal in appearance, albeit slightly altered, but for some reason they walk funny. They walk like if they were power armors without any kind of mechanical assistance so instead of having 500 Kg of protection working for them, the knights have 500 Kg of protection they have to fight against just to walk. I don't even think they can run in those things but I guess we'll see at some point, maybe...?

Also they altered their flag and went back to their very first flag? The white with red stripes that Maxon (the founder) held almost 200 years before? The show says it is 219 years after big boom so about 9 years after F4 so why did the newest orange BoS flag from F4 disappear for a return to a past long gone (that Bethesda never even knew as they weren't in charge back then)? Nostalgia?

Oh yeah, last thing: daddy's girl decide to leave the vault on her own to go and find her kidnapped father. How's that for a promising plot? So refreshing and never ever done before in the whole of the Fallout franchise. Well, except for Fallout 3... and a bit of Fallout 4 (it was "son" instead of "father", but you get what I mean).

That's the biggest points I can think of right now... all in all it was amusing. So I hope for them that their goal was to be amusing. Because if it was to be taken seriously, that's an epic fail.

[Silver Sorrow]

I'm only three episodes in and I'm wondering if "okey-dokey!" is whatsername's catchphrase...Lucy, right. Her name's Lucy. Like it matters.

Anyway...yeah. I can't refute any of the points you made, although I can't claim that I've been observant enough to raise too many objections of my own. Those multiple nukes stood out, though. Minor property damage, nothing a competent contractor couldn't fix...riding away at top speed on a horse...

I think they connected three vaults to make the whole thing happen; otherwise they'd have to actually think of something that made some sort of sense. And as we know, the entertainment industry is seriously lacking in imagination...so obviously the writers weren't going to come up with anything new.

(Side note: when the writers' guild went on strike, it didn't exactly make any sort of difference, did it? Like when we have a government shutdown and nothing really happens. It's not like a sanitation workers strike, right? Just underlines the fact that Hollywood writers and actors, like politicians, are purely vestigial things. People bitch about AI taking jobs? Let 'em take over. Maybe an app could come up with a better premise for getting that retard out of the vault.)

I remember thinking "Aren't vaults supposed to be isolated, standalone experiments?" but figured, oh well...they had to get her out of the vault somehow.

"Don't think about it, maggot!" they scream at us. "Just accept it! We got a lot of ground to cover here, and we still haven't shown you why the BoS is merely a collection of loathsome assholes!"

And the raiders were, yeah, obviously raiders. From the messy, ragged hair to the leader's face looking like a mile of bad road...the high rads...I don't think they really thought it all through. They just knew they had to get dipstick out of the vault one way or another. I guess we're supposed to believe that these people are so naive that they'd buy it. But then when she checks his rads and says "Raiders!" How did she know about raiders, anyway? It just didn't make a whole lot of sense.

The vault-dwellers seem a bit too plastic, maybe driving that "Can-Do, Young American!" crap a little too hard. Lucy herself is so naive as to make me wonder if she has brain damage.

Meanwhile, they're deconstructing the BoS, making them less noble than what the games painted them as. Then again, the F3 BoS were a bit different than the F4 BoS anyway, and...agh, never mind. I'll just give myself an ulcer trying to sort it out.

On the whole, I find it kind of an odd experience. I'm not sure what they were going for, really. Is it supposed to be fan-service dark comedy? I guess it works, if so. "Here's something ludicrous...now laugh, fanboys! Junk jet! Med hypos that cure instantly! Those were in the game! Love us!"

I will say that the Ghoul character is interesting, though. And it was too bad they killed off the scientist with the dog so soon, as Michael Emerson is one of those fascinating actors.

I was surprised that they just dumped the entire season on us. None of this waiting a week for a new episode, no sir! Binge and bask, consumers! So of course there's already these fanjunkies speculating about season two and when it's coming out and...

Blech. The culture of instant gratification. Gotta love it.

"You young whippersnappers...why, back in my day, we had to wait a week between episodes of our favorite shows. Longer, if there was a holiday!"

I joke about it, but it makes me miss Wings and Seinfeld all the more. Then again, I'm glad I dropped that chunk of change on the Wings complete series DVD.

Bonus vid:

[Starfox]

So here we are. Fallout fans have been watching the show and, of course, they already discovered a number of problems between the established lore of the games and the lore of the series and among them, the biggest one being the fate of Shady Sands.

Everyone who played at least the beginning of Fallout 1 remembers the peaceful village of Shady Sands. Everyone who played Fallout 2 know that Shady Sands later became the center of government for the newly established NCR (or New California Republic for those not familiar). And anyone who played New Vegas knows that in 2281 Shady Sands was still pretty much the seat of government for the NCR as it is referenced by name both by NCR soldiers, NCR farmers, anti-NCR people... you name it, as the seat of government for the NCR.

Anyone who watched the TV series knows that Shady Sands was apparently destroyed by a nuclear detonation. Was it necessary for the show to destroy Shady Sands? I don't know; I certainly hope they're going somewhere with that plot, otherwise it's just a drama induced crappy move. But the destruction of Shady Sands itself is not a problem for the fans. The date is. Because Shady Sands was allegedly destroyed (and never rebuilt) in 2277 (yep about the same a certain someone escapes Vault 101 to go search for their father in the Washington Wastelands). It follows that no one in Fallout New Vegas could talk about Shady Sands as if it was still in existence (the game takes place 13 years after the alleged destruction).

So quickly, we have our dear Todd coming online, saying that Bethesda is very respectful in regard to the timeline of the Fallout universe and that everything happening in the Fallout show happened after the events in New Vegas, hell even after those in Fallout 4. Except that... this is not what the show says. The show is pretty adamant regarding the 2277 date, even writing it on a blackboard.

Would have they chosen to destroy any other town, there would have been no problem... probably. But this is Shady Sands we're talking about, a town that is quite central to the Fallout universe, at least as far as Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas are concerned.

Yep, TV writers never learn. This kind of "mistake" is what brakes a show just by pissing off the fanbase. Fans are fans. They know everything about the games they are dedicated to. They know the places, the dates, the characters, there's no fooling them. And the only way to put them on your side is to do it right!

[Silver Sorrow]

I remember someone pointing out that the Shady Sands thing just might be Bethesda taking the piss out of Obsidian for the notion that FNV was better than Fallout 3 (which is debatable)...a "screw you guys!" sort of thing. But that's just speculation. There could be any number of reasons, including that it's a red herring of sorts? Who knows.

I think the thing I was most focused on was my despair over "okey-dokey!" becoming Lucy's catchphrase. I don't think I'll ever recover.

[Starfox]

Well, Apparently the show writers have altered their story. So now, 2277 is the date were it all began to go to shit in Shady Sands but the bombs now officially fell in 2283 (so after New Vegas). It took six years for things to really get bad in Shady Sands? Oh well, at least they made the effort. Too bad they didn't say that in the show. That would have spared us the whole drama.

I think the thing I was most focused on was my despair over "okey-dokey!" becoming Lucy's catchphrase. I don't think I'll ever recover.

Who would? 🤣